Craziest thing: I was in LA for a shoot and the makeup artist recommended laying it thick on the eyeliner for my monolids. Then I come to NY and do a shoot, and the makeup artist says the same thing AND used the same eyeliner. AND she knew who the other makeup artist was! If the look is extreme for you, you MUST at least try the eyeliner they were using. Cake eyeliner from Mud. It does not smudge! You can check out and purchase the product here.